Ferrari F50
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12 17 May 2020, 09:03
Peter Hardy
Welcome to Scalemates Pete! You'll meet the nicest people here! Any problems you have can be solved, just ask for help.
Welcome to Scalemates Pete! You'll meet the nicest people here! Any problems you have can be solved, just ask for help.
17 May 2020, 09:08
Martin Oostrom
Just use a different avatar than the other Pete. Still have nightmares from that one!
And welcome to the madhouse!
Just use a different avatar than the other Pete. Still have nightmares from that one!
And welcome to the madhouse!
17 May 2020, 09:18
Peter Hardy
Well that's pretty impressive for a first ever build Pete! I've never used Sharpies so that's a new one on me. Suspension is looking very nice! Keep up the good work mate!
Well that's pretty impressive for a first ever build Pete! I've never used Sharpies so that's a new one on me. Suspension is looking very nice! Keep up the good work mate!
18 May 2020, 07:42
Martin Oostrom
Looking pretty nice for a first build Peter. A bit lazy using sharpies instead of paints, but it might be I'm a bit jealous not thinking of it first 😉
Looking pretty nice for a first build Peter. A bit lazy using sharpies instead of paints, but it might be I'm a bit jealous not thinking of it first 😉
18 May 2020, 09:05
Kerry COX
I hear that your a new kid in town, and being a newbie, I say welcome to Scale mates and all it's perils. 😉 👍
You picked a difficult but nice kit to begin with. 👍
From what you have posted, you look to have a better grasp than some of us 'seasoned' contenders.
I will be looking forward to more of your work images, as the bits you have posted seem to have had a great deal of care taken. 🙂
well done and enjoy your stay. 👍 🙂
I hear that your a new kid in town, and being a newbie, I say welcome to Scale mates and all it's perils. 😉 👍
You picked a difficult but nice kit to begin with. 👍
From what you have posted, you look to have a better grasp than some of us 'seasoned' contenders.
I will be looking forward to more of your work images, as the bits you have posted seem to have had a great deal of care taken. 🙂
well done and enjoy your stay. 👍 🙂
18 May 2020, 18:13
Peter Muldoon
Thank you for the kind welcome everyone! The sharpies are handy and after seeing a couple of videos of people using them I thought I'd give it a go since I already had them at home. The control on them is great, but the consistency is a little thick for large parts which makes it very difficult not to leave stroke marks. I absolutely love the look of them on smaller parts like small joints, rings, nuts, bolts, etc. I finally gave in and bought some Tamiya paints and brushes yesterday so I will post some more photos soon.
Thank you for the kind welcome everyone! The sharpies are handy and after seeing a couple of videos of people using them I thought I'd give it a go since I already had them at home. The control on them is great, but the consistency is a little thick for large parts which makes it very difficult not to leave stroke marks. I absolutely love the look of them on smaller parts like small joints, rings, nuts, bolts, etc. I finally gave in and bought some Tamiya paints and brushes yesterday so I will post some more photos soon.
19 May 2020, 00:30
Peter Hardy
Wow! The interior is coming together very well. Nice work on the suspension too. The engine is going to look fantastic! You're doing good! Keep it up!
Wow! The interior is coming together very well. Nice work on the suspension too. The engine is going to look fantastic! You're doing good! Keep it up!
27 May 2020, 11:58
Kerry COX
The detailing work is exceptional. 👍
I really liked what you did with the clutch, brake and throttle pedals. 👍
Is Peter leaning over your shoulder with this build. ? 😉
The painting of exhaust system will be interesting to see, as the heat discolouration was pretty intense. 👍 😉
Most impressed. 👍
The detailing work is exceptional. 👍
I really liked what you did with the clutch, brake and throttle pedals. 👍
Is Peter leaning over your shoulder with this build. ? 😉
The painting of exhaust system will be interesting to see, as the heat discolouration was pretty intense. 👍 😉
Most impressed. 👍
27 May 2020, 20:17
Martin Oostrom
Why don't I believe this is a first ever build? Like Peter and Kerry I'm impressed. You're a worthy addition to this nuthouse 👍
Why don't I believe this is a first ever build? Like Peter and Kerry I'm impressed. You're a worthy addition to this nuthouse 👍
28 May 2020, 10:30
Peter Muldoon
Thanks guys! I've definitely fired a few questions Peter's way and Google is getting the workout of its life. Kerry, I just uploaded the finished pedals and will be doing the exhaust soon. I have been trying out a few techniques on the sprues for the exhaust discolouration and am looking forward to doing it. I like detailing with the brushes and my paint collection has been growing daily. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't procrastinating on the body spray a little, but I'll get there soon enough. Thoroughly enjoying this!
Thanks guys! I've definitely fired a few questions Peter's way and Google is getting the workout of its life. Kerry, I just uploaded the finished pedals and will be doing the exhaust soon. I have been trying out a few techniques on the sprues for the exhaust discolouration and am looking forward to doing it. I like detailing with the brushes and my paint collection has been growing daily. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't procrastinating on the body spray a little, but I'll get there soon enough. Thoroughly enjoying this!
29 May 2020, 04:42
Peter Muldoon
Hmm, seems they were somehow deleted. Not sure what happened there. Have uploaded them all again now.
Hmm, seems they were somehow deleted. Not sure what happened there. Have uploaded them all again now.
30 May 2020, 02:40
Peter Muldoon
They should be there now. The photos were deleted from the album and then uploaded to a new album. Very annoying. Let me know if you still can't see them and I'll see what else I can do.
They should be there now. The photos were deleted from the album and then uploaded to a new album. Very annoying. Let me know if you still can't see them and I'll see what else I can do.
30 May 2020, 09:42
Peter Hardy
Outstanding PeTeR! Good to see you are testing techniques and not limiting yourself! This is going to be something to be proud of!
Outstanding PeTeR! Good to see you are testing techniques and not limiting yourself! This is going to be something to be proud of!
31 May 2020, 23:25
Peter Hardy
Strewth! You sure you've never built a model before? Ok, dash is a disaster, lessons learned, next one will be a triumph! Love the seats but you will need to get some panel liner to do a 'pin wash' which will bring up details. Don't forget to apply a clear coat first though. Bloody impressed Pete, so much for my "all glue and fingerprints" prediction! What do I know?
Strewth! You sure you've never built a model before? Ok, dash is a disaster, lessons learned, next one will be a triumph! Love the seats but you will need to get some panel liner to do a 'pin wash' which will bring up details. Don't forget to apply a clear coat first though. Bloody impressed Pete, so much for my "all glue and fingerprints" prediction! What do I know?
14 June 2020, 03:08
Chaz Gordon
For future reference, tamiya acrylics are fairly easy to strip if you feel the need to start over. If fresh, they'll come off pretty easily with some isopropyl alcohol (if you can find any at the moment) else, soak the part in brake fluid for 30 minutes, then a couple of minutes in thick bleach, rinse under the tap and give it a quick scrub to get any bleach out of the grooves. Hey presto, clean plastic. The same process will strip the chrome off of chromed parts too, but thats probably a big step right now.
Welcome to SCM and to the hobby.
One other tip, Acryllics and Enamels often dont play well together, and clearcoating the finished piece with tamiya gloss spray varnish might cause some reactions as it is quite high in solvents. So always do a test first, grab a random plastic item, and combine the paints on it you plan to use. Allow a couple of days for it to cure, then try varnishing it, see what happens. The same goes for decals, always try a test run with a spare decal any time you use a new varnish brand or finish.
For future reference, tamiya acrylics are fairly easy to strip if you feel the need to start over. If fresh, they'll come off pretty easily with some isopropyl alcohol (if you can find any at the moment) else, soak the part in brake fluid for 30 minutes, then a couple of minutes in thick bleach, rinse under the tap and give it a quick scrub to get any bleach out of the grooves. Hey presto, clean plastic. The same process will strip the chrome off of chromed parts too, but thats probably a big step right now.
Welcome to SCM and to the hobby.
One other tip, Acryllics and Enamels often dont play well together, and clearcoating the finished piece with tamiya gloss spray varnish might cause some reactions as it is quite high in solvents. So always do a test first, grab a random plastic item, and combine the paints on it you plan to use. Allow a couple of days for it to cure, then try varnishing it, see what happens. The same goes for decals, always try a test run with a spare decal any time you use a new varnish brand or finish.
14 June 2020, 04:12
Peter Muldoon
Haha, thanks Peter. I can assure you there have been a lot of "all glue and fingerprints" moments throughout the process. A pin wash on the seats would look great. As you mentioned to me the other day, the fans could also do with a wash. Thanks for the tips Chaz. I'm trying to keep to the lacquer -> enamel -> acrylic rule as much as possible. I am currently Googling panel liners and washes. Seen a few videos. I'm wondering if I could get away with a thinned out Tamiya Smoke or flat black acrylic for pin wash on the seats. Would lay down a clear coat first for sure. The metal fans would have to be enamel though right? I may end up purchasing a bottle of Tamiya Panel Line Accent for that.
For the body (doors/panels) I was planning on using the liner as well as a thin marker similar to those Gundam pens. I've seen people use them before the primer, during the primer and after the colour coats so I am a little confused as to when I should be adding mine given that I am spraying the body with the Tamiya TS sprays and not an acrylic or enamel through an airbrush. I've already laid down my primer coats so if it's meant to happen before then I may have missed the boat. Putting panel lining on a painted model seems daunting though. I would hate for the enamel thinner to eat through to the lacquer finish. Maybe a clear coat over the body would help with this? But then would that have to be acrylic or can it be the TS clear spray? Then there are acrylic panel liners!! *Screams*
Haha, thanks Peter. I can assure you there have been a lot of "all glue and fingerprints" moments throughout the process. A pin wash on the seats would look great. As you mentioned to me the other day, the fans could also do with a wash. Thanks for the tips Chaz. I'm trying to keep to the lacquer -> enamel -> acrylic rule as much as possible. I am currently Googling panel liners and washes. Seen a few videos. I'm wondering if I could get away with a thinned out Tamiya Smoke or flat black acrylic for pin wash on the seats. Would lay down a clear coat first for sure. The metal fans would have to be enamel though right? I may end up purchasing a bottle of Tamiya Panel Line Accent for that.
For the body (doors/panels) I was planning on using the liner as well as a thin marker similar to those Gundam pens. I've seen people use them before the primer, during the primer and after the colour coats so I am a little confused as to when I should be adding mine given that I am spraying the body with the Tamiya TS sprays and not an acrylic or enamel through an airbrush. I've already laid down my primer coats so if it's meant to happen before then I may have missed the boat. Putting panel lining on a painted model seems daunting though. I would hate for the enamel thinner to eat through to the lacquer finish. Maybe a clear coat over the body would help with this? But then would that have to be acrylic or can it be the TS clear spray? Then there are acrylic panel liners!! *Screams*
16 June 2020, 00:58
Chaz Gordon
Peter M, it's a mine field to be sure. Metallics can be done with Acrylics too, unless you are looking for a real metal mirror finish like Alclads. And that is generally only Airbrushed. If you just want a silver or steel finish on small parts, you can't go much wrong with the Vallejo model air metallics (even for brushing) which are water based and easy to work with. They are also a bit cheaper than Tamiya and you don't get all the nasty build up around the rim as it's in a dropper bottle.
Lacquers, I definitely recommend the water based Varnish offerings such as Vallejo and Alclad Aqua, water based will not react with much underneath as long as it's fully cured (Including decals etc). Anything solvent or alcohol based runs a risk of interactions, sometimes even with same brand/range paints, it's about the chemistry of how a Lacquer differs from a Varnish
Lacquer actually melts the layers underneath, sometime right down to the plastic, and if all goes according to plan, creates a chemically bonded single entity consisting of plastic, paint and gloss (or matt) surface. Varnish acts more like a clear paint, and should be impervious to water once cured, but may be prone to damage by alcohols or solvents depending on the chemistry of the Varnish. (It's also easier to strip off and start again if it all goes wrong)
I've actually had Tamiya spray Lacquers soften Automotive spray primers to the point you could get the well cured primer colour rub off on your hand while the lacquer was wet.
Peter M, it's a mine field to be sure. Metallics can be done with Acrylics too, unless you are looking for a real metal mirror finish like Alclads. And that is generally only Airbrushed. If you just want a silver or steel finish on small parts, you can't go much wrong with the Vallejo model air metallics (even for brushing) which are water based and easy to work with. They are also a bit cheaper than Tamiya and you don't get all the nasty build up around the rim as it's in a dropper bottle.
Lacquers, I definitely recommend the water based Varnish offerings such as Vallejo and Alclad Aqua, water based will not react with much underneath as long as it's fully cured (Including decals etc). Anything solvent or alcohol based runs a risk of interactions, sometimes even with same brand/range paints, it's about the chemistry of how a Lacquer differs from a Varnish
Lacquer actually melts the layers underneath, sometime right down to the plastic, and if all goes according to plan, creates a chemically bonded single entity consisting of plastic, paint and gloss (or matt) surface. Varnish acts more like a clear paint, and should be impervious to water once cured, but may be prone to damage by alcohols or solvents depending on the chemistry of the Varnish. (It's also easier to strip off and start again if it all goes wrong)
I've actually had Tamiya spray Lacquers soften Automotive spray primers to the point you could get the well cured primer colour rub off on your hand while the lacquer was wet.
16 June 2020, 16:40
Spanjaard
you can do panel lines with flory model washes, they are clay and water, usually, interact with nothing. easy to apply, easy to remove if you have to.... great stuff. i chose them after a turpentine wash reacted with the unprotected plastic of my NXR and almost kill the build completely
you can do panel lines with flory model washes, they are clay and water, usually, interact with nothing. easy to apply, easy to remove if you have to.... great stuff. i chose them after a turpentine wash reacted with the unprotected plastic of my NXR and almost kill the build completely
17 June 2020, 00:26
Peter Muldoon
Peter, okay cool I'll just try to be careful with it. Chaz, that info on the lacquers is really helpful and something I had been wondering a lot about. Spanjaard, I saw a video with those clay washes and thought it was a really cool way of doing it. Time to go shopping I think!
On a side note, my seatbelts and tubing arrived today so I can start to work on that too!
Peter, okay cool I'll just try to be careful with it. Chaz, that info on the lacquers is really helpful and something I had been wondering a lot about. Spanjaard, I saw a video with those clay washes and thought it was a really cool way of doing it. Time to go shopping I think!
On a side note, my seatbelts and tubing arrived today so I can start to work on that too!
17 June 2020, 13:08
Peter Hardy
Well Pete, you are certainly learning some techniques and lessons. How to do and what not to do. We have all broken thin parts and there are some things you can do to make the joins disappear. Overall I would be pretty pleased if I were you with your progress and the knowledge gained. With the brush marks sanding will even things out but you will have to polish to bring back the even surface. Clear coat will give you a shine and headaches! 800 grit might be a bit rough for a finished surface even if wet sanding. We might spend a little time together over a Jameson's at Xmas. Your Jameson's of course. Mine is too precious! Martin OOoooooooooostrom may have some words of wisdom to.
Well Pete, you are certainly learning some techniques and lessons. How to do and what not to do. We have all broken thin parts and there are some things you can do to make the joins disappear. Overall I would be pretty pleased if I were you with your progress and the knowledge gained. With the brush marks sanding will even things out but you will have to polish to bring back the even surface. Clear coat will give you a shine and headaches! 800 grit might be a bit rough for a finished surface even if wet sanding. We might spend a little time together over a Jameson's at Xmas. Your Jameson's of course. Mine is too precious! Martin OOoooooooooostrom may have some words of wisdom to.
7 November 2020, 11:10
Martin Oostrom
Words of wisdom: Don't pee into the wind. Preferably drink your father in law's Jameson.
To even out the brush marks, use some very fine sanding cloths. Start at 3600 grit and work your way up to the finer grit. Don't apply too much pressure, let the cloth do the work and be very gentle around edges and raised parts.
After the gloss coat, start over with the cloths and finish with a polish.
When done, you'll have a VERY well executed first build. Something to be very proud of. As an added bonus, some mistakes made and lessons learned. Get used to the last part, as that will continue to happen 😄
Words of wisdom: Don't pee into the wind. Preferably drink your father in law's Jameson.
To even out the brush marks, use some very fine sanding cloths. Start at 3600 grit and work your way up to the finer grit. Don't apply too much pressure, let the cloth do the work and be very gentle around edges and raised parts.
After the gloss coat, start over with the cloths and finish with a polish.
When done, you'll have a VERY well executed first build. Something to be very proud of. As an added bonus, some mistakes made and lessons learned. Get used to the last part, as that will continue to happen 😄
7 November 2020, 11:28
Peter Muldoon
Thanks! Feeling good about it overall. Learning so much. I'm looking forward to applying what I've learnt to the next model.
Peter, I'll trade you a Jameson for a wet sand and clear coat!😉
Thanks! Feeling good about it overall. Learning so much. I'm looking forward to applying what I've learnt to the next model.
Peter, I'll trade you a Jameson for a wet sand and clear coat!😉
7 November 2020, 15:04
Martin Oostrom
You did a really good job on your first build. Went overboard detailing the car. Some areas to improve, but that's part of the game.
Very Impressive Peter. 👍
You did a really good job on your first build. Went overboard detailing the car. Some areas to improve, but that's part of the game.
Very Impressive Peter. 👍
1 February 2021, 20:01
Rafael Lang
veey good! enjoy your builds, is just what I can talk to you, dont worry, is knowledge now! 😄
veey good! enjoy your builds, is just what I can talk to you, dont worry, is knowledge now! 😄
1 February 2021, 22:19
Peter Muldoon
Thanks guys! Definitely a lot of mistakes here and a lot of lessons learnt. I figured I'd put as much detail into this one as possible and make all the mistakes on my first build. Hopefully that means there are less on the second build, although I know that's never guaranteed haha. I'm having lots of fun and loving the hobby. The stash it starting to build too! 😄
Thanks guys! Definitely a lot of mistakes here and a lot of lessons learnt. I figured I'd put as much detail into this one as possible and make all the mistakes on my first build. Hopefully that means there are less on the second build, although I know that's never guaranteed haha. I'm having lots of fun and loving the hobby. The stash it starting to build too! 😄
2 February 2021, 05:11
Peter Hardy
Ha ha ha! Mistakes will follow you like a shark! As a reward for such a great effort on the first build I have two kits here for you.
Ha ha ha! Mistakes will follow you like a shark! As a reward for such a great effort on the first build I have two kits here for you.
4 February 2021, 11:33
Chaz Gordon
Very nice finished article. I do love the detail level with Tamiya 1/24.
Very nice finished article. I do love the detail level with Tamiya 1/24.
5 February 2021, 21:29
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Tamiya Ferrari F50 1:24
Colour: Red