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Sven Schönyan (ssn-modellbau)
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F-4B VF-111 Sundowners Academy

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3 June 2015, 07:23
Bart Goesaert
Hope to get mine as beautifull as this one...
3 June 2015, 08:00
Soeren R.
Amazing work!
3 June 2015, 09:50
Marko
Great job.
3 June 2015, 15:18
Kevin Farrell
Gorgeous!!
3 June 2015, 16:02
Clifford Keesler
Awesome F-4.
3 June 2015, 16:44
Augie
very nice, well done!
3 June 2015, 16:46
Mats Bengtsson
Excellent!
3 June 2015, 19:06
Sven Schönyan
Hey mates, thank you for the nice comments!
3 June 2015, 19:46
Kevin Farrell
Could you build mine for me? (I'll pay you to keep quiet about it! Yuk yuk) With builds lie this, Hasegawa will have to rework their tools before they get knocked-off the #1 spot as Spook molders!
3 June 2015, 23:09
Ulf Petersen
Wow!😮 What a great finish!👍 The appearance of the surface structure is just awesome! Chapeau!!!
4 June 2015, 05:17
Sven Schönyan
Hey guys, thanks for the comments. Actually I just used the AK Interactive Panelliner and the added a very few pigments on some spots. The rest is the formidable Academy kit and decals.
4 June 2015, 07:45
Kevin Farrell
AHA! A secret! I too was blown-away by the panels & rivets. It is as if you took a photo of one on static display! I have one to build and shall look into the Panelliner. Thanks for sharing!
4 June 2015, 16:13
Choppa Nutta
yeah liking this one, love the colour scheme !!
Decals look painted on !!
isn't this the kit that Eduard uses for their releases ?
4 June 2015, 16:18
Sven Schönyan
@ Kevin: yes the Panelliner works out very well. And I never knew I could get to the real thing as you describe it.

@ Choppa: the basis for the Eduard special editions are Academy kits.
4 June 2015, 16:50
Choppa Nutta
Panelliner, is this a pen or wash ?
4 June 2015, 16:56
Sven Schönyan
The Panelliner is just a washing.
4 June 2015, 17:04
Christian Bruer
Bravo-Zulu
4 June 2015, 17:56
Kevin Farrell
But it's a great wash! It's almost as if you could open an inspection panel. (Obviously, it really impressed me!)
5 June 2015, 01:04
Clifford Keesler
Yours makes me want to build mine.
5 June 2015, 03:47
Sven Schönyan
@ Kevin: yes indeed it´s a great wash. They have altogether 5 different for white, brown, black, etc. camo. I decided to take the one for grey and blue camos even when it is a bit darker but especially carrier aircraft get very dirty during a tour.

@ Clifford: I´m curious to see your model. It really made a lot of fun assembling this kit.
5 June 2015, 06:03
Kevin Farrell
Sven, could I trouble you for the exact product name? They have rust, mud, oil, etc. thanks much. Kevin
5 June 2015, 15:09
Sven Schönyan
Hi Kevin, no problem. Have a look at this:

ssnmodellbau.de/Farb..BLUE-CAMOUFLAGE.html
5 June 2015, 15:20
Choppa Nutta
is it clay based or oil based ?
5 June 2015, 15:31
Sven Schönyan
It is a enamel wash. So you will need an acrylic gloss varnish to seal your model surface first.
5 June 2015, 15:41
Choppa Nutta
cool
5 June 2015, 15:44
Clifford Keesler
I think I will try mine after I finish the Mig.
6 June 2015, 00:13
Kevin Farrell
Danke, Sven. Now I can go into the modeling room with the big boys!
6 June 2015, 06:16
Kerry COX
Oh, I do love a well presented Phab Phantom, of any mark, and it was no wonder you had to have English as one of your subjects at high school, because there were all those stencilled information tags all over them. 🙂
Sven, you should be super happy with what you have achieved mate, especially the little black 'smear' marks where powdered graphite was used to lubricate small points near the leading edges. Great research.👍 👍 🙂
6 June 2015, 06:56
Sven Schönyan
Thanks for the comment Kerry! My research lasted mostly on this book:

SCM Book: F-4B/N Phantom II.

 


"Well presented" - at the moment it is just a model displayed in my showcase in the living room. But I plan to build a grater base for my naval aircraft. I think I will take meassure from Trumpeter´s Nimitz kit from the port after deck (port elevator and the corner beneath it) and buily a section with catwalks.
6 June 2015, 09:31
Choppa Nutta
A 1:48 Nimitz is only about 22 feet long 🙂
6 June 2015, 11:38
Kerry COX
Yeah, that will fit on the back of my BMW, so where do I get one. ???? 🙂
6 June 2015, 11:42
Christian Ristits
Sehr schön geworden deine F-4! Super!
6 June 2015, 13:37
Sven Schönyan
I had a dream during my teenager time when I wanted to build a Dwight D. Eisenhower in 1/72 scale. But nowadays I´m ok with a section of a Nimitz Class flight deck for my 1/48 A/Cs.

@ Christian: Danke! Hätte nie gedacht, daß ein paar einfache Mittelchen am Modell so ein Feedback hervorrufen würden.
6 June 2015, 14:36
Choppa Nutta
Kerry, it is one of those you are going to have to scratch build ! 😄
Although, I have given this some thought, never got further than buying a 1/700th scale kit and doing some drawings but my idea was for making 1/48th scale flying RC models to land and take from it for these indoor RC flying sessions.

But making it portable was going to be a key feature so I figure correx plastic sheets would be the ideal material for this as it would be relatively easy to make it slot together in chunks lime a scalectric race track.
With a bit of sensible design the whole thing could be packed up into a 4 x 2 x 1 box with another smaller box for the coning tower and other details such as the, edge walkways, crane, elevator mechanisms, catapult motors and motorised buggy wheels so I could drive it around on a flat floor.

It would take about 6 or 7 sheets of 8x4 feet 4mm correx to get the basic boat together as it would be built from the water line up with a hollow bottom to take the buggy wheels. the deck would be about 16 inches from the floor with a length of nearly 23 feet and a width of almost 5 feet at the widest point. Whilst it would be basically a simple project it would be a large one with an almost endless scope for detailing but very doable though, probably cost about a £100 to do plus the radio gear etc. on top to make it fully functional, catapults, arrester wires, elevators, cranes, lights, drive motors, sounds and of course 1/48 vehicles and aircraft etc. For instance a Blade Msr can be squeezed into a 1.48 Hughes 500 & Bell 47, larger helis like the Huey, Seaking etc. could take Mcpx mechanics. Phantoms & Tomcats at 1/48 could take the latest range of 3/4 channel micro RC gear, though you would need to make them from depron foam to make them light enough. A 1/48th jeep or tow truck could use the mechanics from a Palm Z RC micro car. etc. etc.

All very doable but it would be a massive project though both in size and logistics but with sensible design it could all be folded away to fit in most cars and for storage. Another idea to take it a step further and make it work on water to would be to carve some foam blocks that link together in 4 foot lengths that clip onto the rest of the boat. The foam blocks would of course house the rudders, motors and props.

The biggest challenge as I see it would be landing the fixed wingers accurately onto the arrester wires and lining up for finals etc. especially as you are not in the plane and hence you deprived of the first person perspective so I was thinking a projector located at the stern directly under the center line of the landing runway pointing up at 9 degrees which would light up the under side of the plane when your are in the finals zone cone. If the projector used an image of concentric circles of different colours to make it easier to judge where you are in the cone zone as it were, Red for the outer limits, then amber and Green for the middle when you are on the "Ball" and by keeping the plane in the Green you can line up every time or least know that if you are in the Red when you get close you can abort the landing and do a go round etc. A laser cross hair doing the same job as well for added accuracy.

Helicopters would be easier in this regard because you can stop moving before you land and thus give yourself time to line up etc.

Add a few scale models to decorate the ship and a few micro cameras here and there on the deck & coning tower and make some awesome videos !! 🙂

BIG BIG project though !!
Well anyway thats my idea of full on scale modeling, hopefully one day I'll get round to doing it 🙂
This is the tiny teaser I made for a friend 🙂

Youtube Video
 


Youtube Video
 
6 June 2015, 14:47
Sven Schönyan
Hey Choppa thanks for sharing your thoughts with us. Here is a guy who really did build a USS Enterprise in 1/48.

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I remember reading something about it that it could swim with RC but I don´t know how much special functions there were.

I´ll stay at my thought of a deck section of DIN A2 or A3 size. This still fits into my car and I can bring it to some shows.
6 June 2015, 15:53
Christian Bruer
Sven, you're to young to change to scales up to 1/350 in ship modeling🙂
6 June 2015, 15:57
Choppa Nutta
Sven, that link doesn't work sadly...

but yes, I have seen a few including a 1/24 HMS Invincible that actually floated and the guy got in it using the elevator as an entry hatch and sailed it around. I don't think any of the actual aircraft worked though but Airfix loved him though ! Still extremely impressive though, this one wouldn't fit in your car 😄

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6 June 2015, 16:12
Choppa Nutta
I liked this one too, scratch built in 1/72 Nimitz in his front room !! 🙂
Gotta love big projects !

Youtube Video
 
6 June 2015, 16:14
Christian Bruer
unbelievable, thx for sharing Choppa.
6 June 2015, 16:20
Sven Schönyan
Ok, maybe this link is better:

ipms.at/webalt/index..id=292&Itemid=31

The 1/72 Enterprise is really well done!
6 June 2015, 16:36
Choppa Nutta
Yeah that link worked Sven 🙂
and wow ! what a project ! looking really good so far, I take it from the photos it aint finished yet but what great progress though !!
I'm also guessing, judging by the construction used that they intend to float this monster ?
6 June 2015, 16:58
Christian Bruer
Choppa, take a look, another big boat:
modelshipgallery.com..oyal-72-df/index.htm
6 June 2015, 19:00
Choppa Nutta
yeah nice !
6 June 2015, 19:16
Sven Schönyan
Here is my more detailed build review of my F-4B in german language. The pics are a bit lightened up.
modellmarine.de/inde..atid=139🤔ven
11 July 2015, 09:25
Kerry COX
Just superb. 🙂
11 July 2015, 10:34
Glenn Hancock
Fantastic work on this one 🙂!
11 July 2015, 11:33
Clifford Keesler
Very very nice!
13 July 2015, 01:09
Sven Schönyan
Glenn, Clifford, thank you for your kind words!
13 July 2015, 15:15
Roberto Rocat
Nice Sundowner.
13 July 2015, 15:29

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After mentioning very often in comments on other F-4 projects I would build also one it is now time to present my version of Academys F-4B kit. I nearly build it OOB. I only added a Eduard Zoom set for the cockpit and took the squadron markings on the bow and tail from Eduards "Good Morning Da Nang" kit.

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