Fleet Air Arm Phantom
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54 19 February 2016, 01:51
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Gareth, throw your pilot into some brake fluid and leave it there until all the paint is dissolved mate. 🙂
( I hope this is the second hand one you bought.) ?
19 February 2016, 03:37
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Love reading about the UK version. It was more powerful than the Pratt & Whitney powered ones but to fit the Spey engine in the angle of the jet was steeper, needed larger intakes and extra cooling ports so only out performed the yanks for a short while until the P&W developed a better after burner system. Trial of the FG.1 (F-4k) on HMS Eagle were stopped almost straight away as the deck was melting on take off.
19 February 2016, 03:43
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Lol, I will do that Kerry. I need to get rid of the moustache! Not allowed those in Her Majesties Royal Navy.
19 February 2016, 03:47
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I had the Spey powered F-4 like yours, and I do remember the huge intakes and massive exhaust pipes, and I find that you can't get these kits any more on line, unless evilbay has them at a massive over price. 🙁 🙁
19 February 2016, 04:45
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I've been quite lucky, I've won a couple on line at reasonable prices. As I have no extra parts for this model other than the decals, I intend to just build it out of the box with some scratch built intake and exhaust blanks. It would be fantastic if Acadamy brought out an F-4K and F-4M.
19 February 2016, 14:30
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Eduard get their F-4's from Academy under licence I believe, and the F-4K is one of them. !! 🙂
19 February 2016, 14:34
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Lol Still love the hasegawa ones.. tho the brit ones tend to be over priced somewhat.
will be watching this one 🙂
19 February 2016, 18:15
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Above link is for the spotters who want to know some of the physical differences between the Yank Phantom and the Spey Phantom.
20 February 2016, 03:58
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Very nice Gareth! Never knew the British Phantoms differed so much of the US versions! Tended to make a Royal Navy Phantom myself too now😄. I'm in!
20 February 2016, 08:38
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I've managed to split the back end apart so that I can match it up properly. Unfortunately there was some damage and and I've lost one of those vent things ...............and a bloody pitot mast!
24 February 2016, 00:47
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On your hands and knees mate, as they MUST be there somewhere, but it's good to know you got it done. 👍
24 February 2016, 04:23
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There is no finding either piece my man. I even resorted to the dust pan and brush which I was picking through like some sort of crazy guy.
I don't make life easy for myself Kerry (a recurring theme). I will use modelling clay to make a mould of the existing vent and make the new one. I think I may be able to make a pitot tube from a needle or an unused piece of kit (strut or something). For the moment I am going to put this build on hold and finish the F-104. It'll give me time to order some extras too (sssshhhh, don't let the wife know)
24 February 2016, 13:34
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It's good to know you have an other distraction on the go mate. 🙂
When I drop a part that 'disappears' on me, I put a piece of a woman's stocking over the tip of my vacuum cleaner and blitz all under my work bench, and 9 out of 10 times I will find it in the stocking tip. (along with some I had forgotten about. lol 👍
24 February 2016, 13:41
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The multipurpose stocking! Not only do they make ladies legs look lovely and robbers noses crooked, but a fantastic filter. My mum used to pass her home made wine through to take the bits out. That's a great idea with the vacuum cleaner though.
24 February 2016, 14:26
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It's worth a try Gareth, and there could be a surprise waiting too. 😉
24 February 2016, 19:58
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The other part of the story and why I won't find the bits...... So I got a little obsessive trying to split the model, but my dog needed letting out. The back yard is not total secure at the appartment we are renting here in Canada so I have to go out with him. Well it was a nice afternoon so I took the model and knife out with me. Pretty sure the lost bits are in the grass somewhere.
24 February 2016, 20:11
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Hi folks. I've taken off the rudder to help me straighten the back up after seeing a picture of the Phantoms lined up on the flight deck of the Ark Royal with their rudders all turned from the wind.
1 March 2016, 20:17
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Carry on mate. I know how frustrating it is to lose bits. The carpet monster ate the boarding ladder to my F-4B this morning. I cannot find it any where.
1 March 2016, 20:30
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Pretty annoying Clifford. Most of my things are in storage right now so literally working out of the box with a few bits I packed in my bag when I came to Canada. When we finally settle I hope to have a bench to drop bits on or around, then I can use Kerry's stoking idea.
1 March 2016, 21:32
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So you moved to this side of the pond? I guess I should say welcome. Here is to hoping you get your bench set up soon.
1 March 2016, 23:45
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From what I understand the Spey's were more powerful and fuel efficient , they were turbofans vs turbojets. But the required airframe modifications to mount the Spey's wound up offsetting the higher performance.
1 March 2016, 23:52
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Hi James, Clifford is right. Rolls Royce had developed an afterburner that made the Spey engine more powerful than the US Pratt and Whitney engines. It came with draw backs. The Spey turbines needed more air, so the intakes were longer and larger. Extra vents were needed on the outside of the airframe and the engine was mounted at a steeper angle. Almost all the extra power was lost. As the US developed their engines the UK's phantom lost its lead. Even the RAF bought used F-4J's when they needed extra aircraft in the 80's.
2 March 2016, 00:19
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I have some reference pictures to show the differences in the other photo album attached to this project.
2 March 2016, 00:27
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IIRC The Spey was chosen for a few reasons. Some political to offset the buying the airframe from abroad. It was also due to at the time RN Carriers being shorter than their USN counterparts the spey being more powerful for take offs and it also providing bleed air for BLC to further reduce landing speeds.
2 March 2016, 01:08
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We had a Spey engine tucked away in our hanger out in the Middle East. Bloody huge thing. I think the RAF had forgotten it was there, not much use in our helicopters.
2 March 2016, 18:43
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I always thought the RAF Phantoms looked cool, I used to see them all the time while I was stationed in Germany, The USAF had their "E"s the Germans had their "F"s then there were the RAF birds. The German Navy was still flying the F-104G's also. I was in a CH-47 company, I was a Flight Enigeer.
2 March 2016, 18:54
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Same als me - I was with the tornados
But also saw a lot of other stuff like the A-10 , Mirage 3 and F-1 , F-16 during some NATO meetings
3 March 2016, 20:51
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A rotory wind man Clifford, nice. I was an Avionics & Weapons Supervisor on Sea kings and later Merlins. It was watching a Naval Phantom that made me interested in joining the Navy and working on aircraft. Sadly, by the time I joined up all the "kick ass" jets had gone. And Tonka's Stephan, were the German ones more reliable than the British ones? I never made it to Germany for any of the NATO meets and I just missed out on a Tiger meet there one year too.
4 March 2016, 03:41
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@ Gareth - I had no big issues with our Tonka´s - but we had often lot of UK guest from the elmpt airbase when the weather was bad there
4 March 2016, 11:50
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I spent 25 years working on Rotary wing aircraft, UH-I Hueys CH-47's and Jet Rangers. I always loved the Sea King, though I never got a chance to work on them. I also worked on some fixed wing AC also, F-106s F-4s and civilian jets DC-9s Citiation IIIs Vs and Gulf Stream 5s. plus some turbo props King Airs mainly.
4 March 2016, 20:00
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Seen a few things then Clifford. Hueys, now there's an iconic aircraft. The Sea King was quite the work horse. The Mk 7's (the ones with the Rafa on the side) will be the last Sea Kings in the Navy soon. It was quite sad to see the search & rescue SeaKings disbanded this year as the government brings in civilian contracts. The Darts must have been interesting to work on.
4 March 2016, 23:45
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Ah we'are from the same branch 🙂
Here a list of the things worked on
Rockwell OV-10B, RFB Fantrainer, Airbus 300 310 320, Tornado, BO-105, Lockheed L-1011 TriStar, Douglas MD-11, Airfoilboats, Focker 50, DO-27
5 March 2016, 08:42
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Airfoil boats looks like fun! I'm assuming that's the ones built by BOTEC. They would be great on the lakes here in Canada.
5 March 2016, 12:35
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Gareth take a look at this little thing
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5 March 2016, 14:09
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That is a wicked looking critter. @ Gareth, yes the Dart's were a blast. They were one of my favorites,especially when we took them to the trim pad and tied them down and ran them at full military power, then lit the afterburner. We converted them to full size radio control aerial target drones.
5 March 2016, 21:02
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Poor old Darts. I understand a lot of the F-4 became target drones too.
6 March 2016, 00:54
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Yes, I also converted them to drones also. Really hated to see those maginificent aircraft go that route. From what I understand there are numerous Darts still around. One even still remains in flyable condition. It is a New Jersey ANG bird. Painted in commerative markings. I am in the process of building this aircraft. I will get some pictures up soon.
7 March 2016, 16:04
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Curtesy of @Burkhard D. More F-4 stuff including the original report for the F-4K from 1964.
aviationarchives.blogspot.de/
10 March 2016, 02:06
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If anything, the brit version of the F-4 really made the look of the phantom so much meaner, like it had been on steroids or something to help 'bulk it up' 🙂 👍
10 March 2016, 02:37
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The British Bulldog effect ha ha. As I have been poking around the internet I've found a few references to a phantom with sweeping wings (F-14 / Tornado style).
10 March 2016, 04:17
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Pulling the model apart damaged the rudder Si I removed it completely to repair and will set it back at an angle, as in some reference photos I have.
30 March 2016, 19:29
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You are whipping her back into shape, I'll bet the finished model will be outstanding. I did the same thing with the rudder on my F-4B, it had a separate rudder, so I glued it in at an angle. Looks better.
30 March 2016, 22:21
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Hi Christian and welcome aboard. I'm still waiting for some items to arrive in the post before I get started. The postal system here in Canada is brutal as I am assuming Hannants have sent the parcel. It took over a week for UPS to get a package up from the States.
12 April 2016, 16:01
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It's like Christmas again, only I got what I want this time. Goody box has arrived from the UK.
14 April 2016, 14:40
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Is the mail delivery guy OK Gareth.? :-/ As mine bitches like crazy when more than one item is delivered. LOL. 🙂
The extras look impressive. !!!
An other good reason for my staying up late no all this will be used.👍
Im'a watchin'. 🙂
14 April 2016, 22:17
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No pressure then Kerry😉 I loved your diorama so I have the idea of a simple one with the Phantom outside the hangar with the power rig plugged in. I will look at getting the Skunk model tractor and towing arm later.
14 April 2016, 22:40
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Wow, !! I am pleased that my work has been of some use then, even as it sits here gathering dust, it is still 'working' hahaha. 🙂
The ground crew that will be actively involved in this are the Hasegawa carrier figures or do you have something else in mind Gareth,?
Did you see the resin figures of the flight crew I have for my Phantoms at all. ?
Just a thought, but I would imagine the British flying rig would be slightly different. ? Check the RedRoo link. 👍
Academy's F-4C Phantom. | Album by RedRoo
14 April 2016, 23:05
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Hi Clifford, welcome aboard. Kerry, the Skunk tractor unit comes with figures so I shouldn't have to mess about too much. The US figures are quite different (just being picky as it was my real job).
15 April 2016, 00:27
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All is totally under control I see and I should have remembered, after the posts you made of your experience. 🙂 👍 Please forgive my memory lapse mate. hehehehe👍
15 April 2016, 07:04
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I'm not sure about totally under control. I will probably be hounding your good self and Christian for hints and tips along the way. We'll start with how did you make the concrete base for your diorama?
15 April 2016, 11:28
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I cut up some sand paper sheets into quarters, (the type you can get at any handyman/hardware store) and smeared wood glue/PVA evenly, then placed the paper on top of it and weighed it down with books that were protected by a large plastic bag, all the time, wiping away any excess glue that may have come out between the squares. "Goin' Home" Diorama. | Album by RedRoo
15 April 2016, 12:02
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I will have to try the sandpaper idea, for a dio base. I only need to build about 4. LOL.
15 April 2016, 22:22
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The only drawback with the PVA glue is that it will take some time to dry completely, but putting it in the sun does help a bit. 🙂
15 April 2016, 22:41
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I will remember that. Do you leave it the color it is or paint it. I guess you would want to use one with a pebbled brownish color. Or did you use black?
15 April 2016, 22:44
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I used a wash of light brown first for the "Run off" effect look, then a wash of 'brown earth" where 'puddles' would have formed. 🙂 👍
15 April 2016, 23:04
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I spent my money on a 1:48 scale power rig, I'm not getting any bloody ducks!
17 April 2016, 23:43
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Always had issues with crows nesting in the hangars and craping on the aircraft. Don't remember a chicken infestation.
18 April 2016, 01:50
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Gareth, down to more serious matters now. Ahem, ! I am seeing, in image 13, from where you have done your repairs and mods on the tail surfaces, I saw an iddy biddy gap just below the vertical tail aileron. and as no other images of your work are posted yet, I am wondering how it turned out after all the repairs were done.? (Howzat for being diplomatic.? 🙂 )
19 April 2016, 02:06
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Lol, have I fixed the bit I broke yet?! No. I have studying so the models have had to go on hold. I managed to finish the decals on my F-104 today so maybe start looking at this project properly next week. The new molded vent came out well and I will fill and shape the rest once the cockpit is in. Oh, I did manage to split the rest of the airframe with out further damage.
19 April 2016, 02:24
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Gareth, I never doubted for a minute you couldn't mate. 🙂 and minimal damage from what I saw too. 🙂 👍
19 April 2016, 05:24
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Gareth, ! That looks stunning mate, and I am really looking forward to the end result of all your superb effort on this little item. 👍 🙂
26 April 2016, 18:38
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Thanks Kerry. Flightpath kits are very good. I may have to get myself some watch makers glasses and a proper PE bender, not sure tweezers and a ruler are going to cut it for long.
26 April 2016, 20:49
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I have found a couple of model shops here, so I will pop in an see what they have.
Augie, have a look at djparkins.com/home.php Lots of good stuff and the Royal Navy tractor by Skunk Models
27 April 2016, 00:14
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My wallet has been suffering anorexia for a long time now, and I don't hold out any hope of it recovering in the near future mate. 🙂
27 April 2016, 04:43
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Gareth, I do like the detail on the crew access ladder. 👍
It's all looking great, well done. 🙂
2 May 2016, 17:55
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Thanks Kerry. Once I've put a little weathering on I think both the rig and ladder should look pretty good.
2 May 2016, 18:19
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I have seen black rubber strips on top of each rung of the ladders and the obligatory chipped paint on the grid on the top, but you know that anyway. 😉
2 May 2016, 20:38
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Not black rubber Kerry, that would cause a FOD hazard. Black "non skid" paint and yes, plenty of paint chips. Maintainers aren't very gentle with Ground Equipment.
2 May 2016, 21:07
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Looking forward to seeing the final display as the ground equipment will breathe life into the otherwise static aircraft.
I have many fond memories of watching RF-4 Phantoms racing across the desert skies of Southern California. The smoke those engines would belch out was insane!!
3 May 2016, 00:36
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They had a reputation for being smokey, even the Spey powered Phantoms.
3 May 2016, 10:52
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Once the paint is dry, I'll give the ladder a clear coat then a weather wash to dull it back. Happy with it so far though.
3 May 2016, 17:04
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Thank you Christian. I want to make a hangar wall in the background. Is there something you specifically use when you make your diorama building?
3 May 2016, 19:06
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Bloody amazing Clifford. If not for your hand in the image, I would have thought it was parked in your garage. 🙂 👍
3 May 2016, 20:48
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Woops ! 🙁, (embarrassed) I apologise Gareth, but I am sure you understand how it happens. Sorry mate. :-/
3 May 2016, 23:02
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lol, it happens to the best of us. I've been known to call my son by the dogs name.
3 May 2016, 23:16
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Hi Gareth, I most use styrene for any building or structure I build for my dioramas. Very common is Evergreen and Plastruct. I prefer the latter one because they use the metrical system 🙂
Hope that answers your question?!
evergreenscalemodels.com/
plastruct.com/
Cheers, Christian
4 May 2016, 18:24
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Great work on the ground equipment Gareth, that power unit is amazing. Flightpath do some really nice stuff 👍
4 May 2016, 19:46
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Thanks guys. Slow and steady should get me there. Yes, the Flightpath sets are nice, the PE set for my 1/32 F-4E looks amazing. Had a couple of moments already where I have been grateful for a wood floor and not carpet. I don't know how you do the small scale stuff Christian.
5 May 2016, 18:00
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Here you go Clifford. Careful though it may hurt your wallet.
djparkins.com/home.php
5 May 2016, 21:45
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Gareth is right, the first time I went there,,,,,Anne heard a sonic boom as the money flew out of my wallet. (via debit card, but, you get the idea.)
I was like a kid, though "I gotta get that, need some of those,,,,,oooo look at that"
Matador Models is the next worst thing,,,,,,,lots of ground equipment and vehicles that you will end up "needing"
6 May 2016, 01:58
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Hannants is a great one stop shop too. But, yes Rex. I went to the basket the first time and saw my subtotal and had to put some things back 🙁 lol. Wind sock, oxygen bottles, fire extinguishers, railings. Still having issues finding Royal Navy flight deck figures though.
6 May 2016, 02:37
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This is all I could find, and I am wondering. Would some alterations be in mind if you HAD to get deck crew Gareth. ?
6 May 2016, 04:48
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Thank you Holger.
The Skunk tractor is the one I have coming in the post. Looks pretty good and I may have to do something with the figures. I'm doing an early Phantom and the lads didn't have plates on their flight deck helmets.
6 May 2016, 11:22
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I still bought Kinetics FRS.1 in scale 1/48 and looking forward to your progress at the tractor Gareth! Following the link Kerry (Thx Kerry 👍 ) shared with us the kit fortunately includes some figures.
6 May 2016, 12:24
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I am not really knowing if the link did help, but all I could see was arms and legs everywhere and figured there must be something that could be of use. 🙂
6 May 2016, 13:12
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Had a close look at the pictures of the figures and it looks like some of the figure are based on Americans, too many pockets. That will be easy to fix with a knife and file.
6 May 2016, 21:41
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Took a bit of a break to watch the Invictus games. A good friend I joined up with did very well. 2 golds a silver and a bronze medal. Anyway. Chocks going together, Houchin just needs the cable, but I will leave that until I work out how it will stand with the Phantom. Cockpit details removed.
12 May 2016, 20:58
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I really do admire the modeller who has the guts and know how to be able to chop and change a model, and to make it look like it was made that way. 🙂 👍
You certainly have done an awesome job on this old bird Gareth. 👍 👍 👍
13 May 2016, 21:04
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Thanks guys. I was a little nervous Kerry, but I just thought I'd get on with it. Measure twice, cut once.
14 May 2016, 01:50
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Looking very "British" Gareth. A long way from what you started out with mate. Great work and results . 🙂
27 May 2016, 17:53
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Not a lot done as life seems to be getting in the way, but the tub is coming together. The previous owner of the kit had glued the forward wheel bay on slightly crooked. A few colourful words used as the bay came away, the craft knife went into my finger and the cockpit hit the floor with PE pinging across the floor.
27 May 2016, 17:56
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All recovered though. ? The finger and all I mean too mate. :-/
Gareth, If I may make a suggestion, and then again, you may already have this base covered. 🙂
BUT, I have got an old bed sheet, (white) that I have placed under my chair and spread out enough to be a couple of feet all round my work area, and it has saved my neighbours ears from a loverly shade of blue from my cussings.
I have never 'lost' an other item since I started doing it, and it gets replaced quite often, but a great investment in one's sanity. 🙂
27 May 2016, 18:03
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That is a great idea Kerry. At the moment I am working on a small kitchen chopping board on the end of my bed. The good lady and I are talking about buying a house here in Canada in the next few months which will mean my own work bench and a fewer issues (hopefully).
27 May 2016, 21:32
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A home of your own. ? :-o. How wonderful for you mate. 👍
But in the meantime, that little spot at the end of your bed has helped produce some great visuals for us all here. 🙂
Good hunting for what you want and need Gareth. 🙂
28 May 2016, 00:14
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Good luck with the house hunting Gareth. The Phanthom is looking fabaolus.
28 May 2016, 00:30
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Thanks guys. Been feeling unsettled having left the Navy, my village and country and living in a rented apartment. Still waiting for a work visa, but once again, the modelling calms the mind.
28 May 2016, 01:22
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Gareth, I DO know what you mean when you talk about leaving an institution you gave so much of your life to and the friends and that 'bond' we develop. I was kind of 'lost' after I got out of the Army here, and 6 years was all it took to make me feel that way, but after seeing my dad's 35 years service, I didn't want to become 'institutionalized' as he did, and I deliberately decided 6 years was 'it' for me. Hopefully, you will find a new distraction and put all your pent up energy into that, what ever it is. 🙂 I went back to 'school' and did university, which was just an other 6 years, but with better opportunities than just being 'ex services' on my CV.
Good things will happen for you mate. 🙂 👍
28 May 2016, 02:22
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I know how you feel Gareth, I spent 20 years in the service and have been retired from it for 27 years, and retired from my civilian career for 10 years, and I still miss both. But my modeling keeps me occupied, as well as my family. Cheers, hope you get back to work soon.
30 May 2016, 12:55
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Cheers Clifford. It will all get sorted in the end.
Meanwhile. New item has arrived. My tractor unit to go with the Spook. The tractor looks ok, but there will some work to get it looking like a 1960's unit. 9 men too in the box. ALL IN US NAVY RIG.......aaaaahhh. Some filing and filling to do to get rid of pocket, high leg boots and make T-shirts look like long sleeve jerseys or coveralls.
30 May 2016, 17:41
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The air wing of the Royal Navy is something that has not been considered, even the likes of Verlinden I would have thought would have addressed the "British" side of modelling material. 🙁 Good results will come of your pocket and boots rearrangements Gareth. 🙂
30 May 2016, 18:51
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Cheers Kerry. We wore dark blue denim overalls. They often didn't fit properly. We had actual China men on our ships doing the laundry and they boil washed EVERYTHING! The trouser leg would either be under your heal or just right because they hadn't gone through the laundry yet, or above your ankles because they had. Oh, and civvies, once they put a crease in your jeans it was never coming out.
30 May 2016, 19:27
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It seems sort of strange that you can't get actual RN crewman in model form. I understand your plight, though. Model companies seem to think that all US Naval types dressed like our sailors did,,,,,,,as if we Marines wore the same uniform. (to be fair to them, we often did, they had "better" pants and shirts than we did, and you could buy their stuff on the base, we did NOT buy the hats, though, lol)
30 May 2016, 19:44
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Rex. I guess it would be a nightmare for model companies to keep up with uniform changes and all the rigs we wore. Basic working uniform, overalls, tropical rig, foul weather gear.
1 June 2016, 20:03
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You're probably right, Gareth. Getting three or four sets of uniforms for each service, and then the changes for the time periods right. We're modelers, and one of the things that modelers do is wish for 17 other versions of anything that some company comes out with. And I am going to say I agree with those modelers that wants something different than you or I. What use does an Aussie WW II modeler have for the 60's-70's Marine ground crew uniforms that would make me extremely happy?
1 June 2016, 21:34
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Lost some detail on the top from the rub down, so scribing time. My favourite homemade tool, an old Tamiya paint brush, bristle removed and a needle superglued in.
2 June 2016, 18:39
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Do show how you have come up with the 'scribing' tool Gareth, as I have a pin vice with a needle, but that becomes awkward and heavy to handle after a while. 👍
2 June 2016, 19:56
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Quite simple Kerry. I cut the bristles off an old paint brush (thin wooden dowel will work) and drilled deep enough to secure the needle. Filled the hole with superglue and pushed the needle in. It's almost like a light pencil but pointier.
2 June 2016, 20:50
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The simple things always seem to work better too. 👍
Thanks for that Gareth, as I do have a good supply of brushes I have 'kept' and now I see it will be worth it. 🙂
Cheers. 👍
2 June 2016, 22:09
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Looking good Gareth. I just finished re-scribing a Monogram P-40B, and that is what I used is a sewing needle chucked in my pin vise. Works very good.
7 June 2016, 21:56
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The needle does a nice job. I'm quite glad this is just rescribing some panels after the rub down. The real test will be the scribing the whole 1:32 F-4E I have. I have bought some electrical insulation tape to help as a guide to scribe against.
8 June 2016, 03:12
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Had the day off so pull the box out for a couple of hours. Looking forward to moving into our own house in March and setting up a work bench!
17 January 2017, 18:40
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I am wishing good things for your 2017 Gareth. 👍
Nothing better than 'pulling out the box' and doing a revisit.🙂
Now,
the whole lot of us are keen to see what your going to do. 🙂 🙂
17 January 2017, 19:56
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Thank you. Kerry, there's a space under the stairs with my name on it. Hopefully one I have a working area I can just go back and tinker from time to time and eat away at projects. If you look at my stash I have a few, including 2 more Navy Phantoms. And thank you Augie. I'm trying to take things up a notch with each build, I bought some watch maker glasses now too.
17 January 2017, 20:23
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Ha ha, they're doing two good jobs then. For $35 Canadian (they even have a little LED light on them), I thought I would try them out. Take a little getting use to, but great once you get the hang of it.
19 January 2017, 18:52
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Yes mate. A great benefit in all the close up fine detail work when needed. A saviour for me on many an occasion. 🙂 👍
19 January 2017, 20:15
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Thank you Christian. It a big step in the family's move from the UK to Canada. Fabulous work on the small scale AFVs, they look amazing.
20 January 2017, 10:00
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Fromn UK to Canada, really a big step. Avoid wet feet when you cross the atlantic ocean 😉
Thx for the compliment 🙂
20 January 2017, 18:25
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It looks nice Gareth. Which 1/32 Phantom do you have to re-scribe?
23 January 2017, 19:28
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Sorry Clifford, only just see your comment from January. It's the old Revell F4-E. I have the Flightpath photo etch set for it and the Legend resin cockpit too.
13 February 2017, 03:39
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Nice work Gareth! Looking forward to the finish. Love the F-4.
13 February 2017, 04:19
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Thank you. It's slow going as I do a little work now and again. I'm hoping to finally have a workbench set up next month in the new house, which means I can chip away a little more frequently. Literally working out of the box is a right pain. I also finished building my first tank since I was 12 for my youngest son (see my Patton Tank album).
17 February 2017, 12:59
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After that 'surprise' in the beginning, this build is really taking a flight now! Looking good so far! 👍
16 August 2019, 13:11
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I agree with everyone, excellent progress and attention to details.
17 August 2019, 01:43
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Thank you mates. Once again the lovely comments and support are why I love this modeling community.
25 August 2019, 01:09
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Yeah Clifford, the base is resin and looks pretty good. I'v been wanting to do a little diorama after following Kerry's B-17 "Going Home" build. I was going to scratch build one, but I had a little birthday money so I got this.
25 August 2019, 14:35
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Gareth. 🙂 Inspiration is what I like to achieve and thank you for the compliment mate. 👍
I am really keen to see the progress of the dio mate. 🙂
25 August 2019, 19:38
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I also will be looking forward to the final result. @ Kerry, your B-17 dio was nothing short of breath taking. The work of a true master craftsman.
26 August 2019, 23:58
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Clifford. Your most kind my friend. 👍
Thank you so much for the compliment. 👍 🙂
27 August 2019, 05:48
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The previous owner had built the seats, so I pulled them apart. The padding was far too bright a green so they were suttled down. I love the Eduard detail I'm about to put on, but not enjoying the paint peeling off as I bend it.
10 September 2019, 11:17
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Just got caught up Gareth. Your work is definately worth waching. A lot of work at the beginning, but it looks like it may pay off. I can't believe how you r modest work space is where all of this magic happens. Can't wait to see more.
10 September 2019, 11:32
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Thank you Bryn and welcome. It's turning into a labour of love and may take a while. And it's so nice to be working on it at a desk now rather than a tray on the bedroom floor.
10 September 2019, 15:46
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Man, that really sucks as the painted details are what makes those PE parts just so popping. Hope you are able to touch up some of those chips. 🙂 Other than that, I have to agree on other comments; it really is turning into something good! 👍
10 September 2019, 15:50
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Thanks Patrick. I managed to get a little superglue under the pealing paint and push it back down with an old dental tool I have. Every days a school day!
10 September 2019, 15:57
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😄 And that learning curve will just get steeper and steeper. 😉
10 September 2019, 15:59
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No kidding. I look at a few models I built before joining this website and I know I've improved. So many great modeller here to inspire and learn more from. I'm hoping to get the balls to tackle my 1:24 Sea Harrier at some point with the box of PE I have for it.
10 September 2019, 16:07
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I look forward to that one Gareth. I know you will turn out a work of art.
11 September 2019, 01:57
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looking good. i see now that you will be using the hobby decal transfers... result can be really good, but you will need to take your time.....😉
11 September 2019, 06:48
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Oh yes Spanjaard, the dry rub transfers look amazing and from what I've read, your right, I need to take my time, no repositioning those.
13 September 2019, 03:42
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Excellent. Must get one on those pieces of ground equipment too - it's what my Dad worked on.
16 September 2019, 16:38
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Those Houchin ran forever. Great bits of ground equipment. They were slowly replaced through the 90's. Used them for maintenance and to start the Sea Kings. Where did your Dad work @playtime 222 ?
23 September 2019, 03:06
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Gloss coat on the seat to help "lock" the PE in place and give me a nice surface to do a little weathering.
23 September 2019, 03:08
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BZN amongst many, many other places 60s, 70s, 80s. Ground equipment was his thing.
23 September 2019, 06:15
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It took me ages to place all those transfers in my black bunny Phantom, some were not really a success for some reason, but you can say it is part of the weathering process 😛
23 September 2019, 08:57
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First seat is all together with only a few "Oh SHIT, where did that go!?" moments. I have gloss coated the seat to help lock the photo etch on and give me a nice surface to use oil paints to weather it. I was told on another forum that pilot and maintainers spilt coffee and trod all over them.
25 September 2019, 14:46
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The seat is amazing. At first I thought I was looking at the real thing. Then thought to myself that is one hell of a brush they use. Lots of fiddly PE bits. Worth it!
25 September 2019, 17:06
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Slow going. Life gets in the way sometimes. My 16 year old dog past away, my father-in-law past way recently and I broke 2 ribs carting the new rescue dog down the stairs.
But this is back on the bench........yeay.
The vent at the back of the aircraft broke off as I split the plain apart to realign it all (eBay started kit). Going to make a mould and make a new one.
12 December 2019, 03:25
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Gareth, you have the 'Midas' touch and the patience of a saint. 👍
Seeing all your seam work and filling of the gaps that comes with the Academy kit reminds me of why I gave up on my F-4 kit. 🙁
What you have achieved is just stunning mate. 👍
I hope your fully recovered and back in the grove. 🙂 🙂 👍
12 December 2019, 05:40
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Thanks for the encouragement Kerry. There are a few gaps in this kit and it's trying my patience, but the F-4 is such a beautiful aircraft. I've got another 2 of these kits in the stash plus the Revell 1:32 which I want to do in Vietnam colours.
12 December 2019, 14:20
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Thanks Hans. Good to know. I will have those on standby if my moulding doesn't work out. When life gives you lemons, make lemonade. I'm actually looking forward to moulding and making my own parts.
12 December 2019, 15:44
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Very nice project & progress! Joining late, but I think this is going to be rewarding to watch even - or especially - from now on - never went so deep into the DNA-sequence of the hobby to mould anything on my own! Good luck 👍
12 December 2019, 16:13
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Welcome along for the long ride. The tractor unit does look good David, but is far too new a version to use as it is with the Phantom. Once I've tried the moulding out, I'm going to try and change the back end of the tractor, which looks just like the front minus the seat, controls and lights.
13 December 2019, 03:54
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Ok, so I lost my Mojo there for a little with this Phantom and did a couple of little side projects (check out my Airfix P-51). Having remodeled the kitchen I now have a new work bench made from part of the old counter top and a couple of cabinets. Moulding the rear vents has not been successfully......so far. But with each failure I am closer to success.....right?!
25 September 2020, 19:00
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For more than 220 comments, this Phantom was under my radar. How could this be! Joining in the party!
25 September 2020, 21:17
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about the vent, I would suggest to make the mast with metal, to prevent it from breaking again. mine almost did, so I to replaced it before it happened later in the build
25 September 2020, 21:27
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Gareth that blue stuff looks like just the ticket for some small parts I would like to have a go at moulding !!
Thanks for the tip and the video link ! 🙂
Previously I was looking at the silicone and resin route which is about £50 for a basic starter kit !! 😮
Unfortunately I can't find a seller in the UK thus far ......
25 September 2020, 23:50
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Agree with Nathan, looking very nice. The carpet monster strikes again.
26 September 2020, 00:50
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Cheers all. Choppa, you should be able to find the "Blue Stuff" & "Green Stuff" on eBay, I'm in Canada and it came from a UK vender.
26 September 2020, 00:58
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ah, all I have found thus far is a vendor from Spain who won't ship to the Uk for some reason and one other from the states... for which the postage is more than the item itself ...
Have you got a link to the Uk vendor you bought your blue stuff from please ? 🙂
Btw, nice work so far, I'm looking forward to seeing how this project progresses !! 🙂
26 September 2020, 09:38
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Strange, they have UK in the list of countries where they ship greenstuffworld.com/..inations-and-postage
26 September 2020, 12:18
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Thanks ever so much Spanjaard !
I have another option now 🙂
Btw, the Spanish vendor I was referring to was on ebay
26 September 2020, 17:18
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Me too as you gave me a useful link that helps me out, thank you ! 😄
27 September 2020, 01:37
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I think I'll get it this time. Mould made with bluestuff and two halves of a kit in my stash. Using filler I made with glue and sprue that can get right into the mould. Fingers crossed.
1 October 2020, 16:25
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Good luck. I am trying to figure out how to make a mould, to cast a belly pan/nose wheel well for a 1/72 Hobby Craft F-89 that is missing it. I have 2 other 1/72 F-89"s but can't figure out how to do it.
2 October 2020, 01:04
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So Gareth, you used glue thinned filler for this? From the picture I thought you used sprue goo. Isn't that filler brittle then?
14 October 2020, 00:47
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Gareth, what did you use for mold material. I have to find something to use as mold material, to try and mold in flight refueling probes for my ESCI Mirage 2000's and F-1's.
14 October 2020, 01:00
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I can hardly believe I've not touched this model in over a year. It's been an odd year. So I was laid off at work (mobile phone antenna site installation) as building access was restricted. Got a new job doing something similar, but living in hotels in the week and only seeing the family at weekends which sucked. So I started my own business as a Personal Trainer 3 months ago and it feels great, although a slow start and a lot of work.
Patrick & Clifford, the glue sprue thing was the way ahead. I use this as a filler on my models anyway and it was great in the moulds I made from Blue Stuff (yes, that's it's actually name).
11 November 2021, 02:26
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I have seen a video on you tube, where a guy uses it to make molds. Will try and track some down. Glad to see you back, looking forward to seeing more of this Phantom.
11 November 2021, 03:27
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All those stencils from Hobbydecal will be so much fun to apply, but will pay off at the end (I did the black bunny set, took for ever!)
11 November 2021, 08:25
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Looking good Garth, those seats are great. Started a F-4 myself too with some resin seats but the PE option is nice too
11 November 2021, 08:33
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Haha well I only have removed them from the casting blocks Spanjaard 😄
11 November 2021, 08:51
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Thought I'd best pop over to your place and see how yours is going !! Love the detail you're adding to this kit 👍🏻
18 November 2021, 19:31
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Hi David. Thank you. As you can see from the start date, life kind of got in the way. I'm hoping to make some honest headway with it again.
20 November 2021, 21:21
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Yeah, life has a habit of doing that 🙃 it would be good , you've doing fantastically with it so far… and I need some inspiration!😎
20 November 2021, 21:28
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I lost my mojo with this build, repairs, lost bits and probably overthinking it all, I had to have a break. A few build under my belt and I'm back. Given that this is one of 3 1:48 FG.1's I really need to get into this and finish it.
12 May 2022, 22:08
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Thes FAA f4's must be cursed !!! 😂 strangely mine is also 1of 3 !!! I've still got and RAF Version and raspberry to do.
Don't leave it too long I'm too keen to see this one finished
12 May 2022, 22:10
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This one was for sure David. Take a look at the earlier pictures in the build. I had to break it in half to realign it as someone else I bought it from was not so careful gluing it together. This one is going in a little dio', the next one I want flying and the last one on a flight deck with a Buccaneer and Wessex.
12 May 2022, 22:20
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At least you didn't have the revell box to deal with !!! Good luck with the builds, can't wait to see the buccaneer…
12 May 2022, 22:28
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I hear the old one can be a bit of a Bear, but I would build it too, if I could get my hands on one.
14 May 2022, 21:43
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For a fleeting moment I had the idea of building a diorama of the Buccaneer refueling a Phantom with the inflight "buddy" fueling pods. I don't think I want to put myself through that.
15 May 2022, 02:39
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Gareth. That would be one hell of a challenge mate. !
I have a ITALERI 1/72 Boeing 707 Kc tanker that I had visions of having two F-15's hanging off it's teats. ! 👍 😉
15 May 2022, 04:09
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Garerh, and Kerry both of those would be really cool. @Kerry at one time I had the 1/72 KC-135 and EC-135 kits, but gave them to my nephew. I could kick myself in the backside now. They cost a small fourtune now if you can even find them.
15 May 2022, 23:45
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A little more photo etch at the back end and I'm trying my hand at sculpting a packed drag chute to go in the hole in the tail.
25 May 2022, 17:25
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Test fit of the resin exhausts and they don't fit in! It's not even where I've cut plastic out. They are hitting the auxiliary air vents on the sides. More work 🤦♂️
7 June 2022, 20:34
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More chilli's. !!! The never ending problem solving we must endure with this wonderful bloody hobby. ! But the mechanics of it all still looks wonderful Gareth. 👍 😉
7 June 2022, 21:39
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Thanks Kerry, starting to move in the right direction with a better pace. And yes, the grey cells are having a workout. Should be putting some paint on her soon.
8 June 2022, 02:28
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Looking good, looking forward to seeing her in paint. I know you will solve all of the issues.
8 June 2022, 03:50
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Now I really feel I'm making headway. Black primer is on and there doesn't seem to be too much to tweak. I'm pleased with moulding and repair I did on the tail vent and the pilot's access ladder is looking sweet.
9 June 2022, 16:51
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Thanks Clifford, feels good having running smoothly now. I have knocked off an P.E in a while either! (I've gone through 3 antennas on the top). Your Tomcat is looking forward to competed Tomcat.
10 June 2022, 13:08
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Found a couple of sidewinders in the scrap box (none come with the kit), so I'm making a training variant missile which would be used for weapons acquisition training getting the infrared camera to lock onto a target. The body of the missile is blue (Oxford Blue indicates drill/inert) but operational head. They would also not have the canards (fins) fitted. The nose cap I have made from Green Stuff.
24 June 2022, 16:37
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Looking good. Yea it is sad that you don't get weapons in the Hasegawa kits.
25 June 2022, 00:34
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Rarely carried the aim9 as their role was primarily mud movers. But, the wing looks empty without something on those inboard pylons 👍🏻
25 June 2022, 10:34
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Definitely mud movers. The Phantom arrived just after the Borneo Conflict where air to ground support was critical, hence the British Phantoms had an improved radar for Air to Ground targeting. However as the Russians stepped up their dangerous games during the Cold War; fly close or into NATO airspace, the Naval Phantoms did more intercepting (and intercept training, especially 767nas). Your right David, not too many shots of an RN Phantom loaded for air to air combat, but a few loaded with bombs or Manta rocket pods. I've got the rocket pods from other models (I've got 2 sea Vixen to build), but not the correct pylon attachments for the spook. There is going to be enough going on with this model though, power unit, access ladder and step, airfield base and I have figures from the Skunk Models UK tractor to add, but they are clearly American and need things removing and bits adding.
25 June 2022, 17:15
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Coming along nicely Gareth, I am sure the finished project will be awesome.
25 June 2022, 23:29
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Wow, that's a lot of work, and it will brilliant, can't wait to see the finished article.
26 June 2022, 20:09
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No doubt it will be a huge inspiration to all those 'Phantom' freaks who have an on going love affair with the most grunty and meaningful air fighters of our time. (BTW Gareth) I have plenty of spare 1/48 scale stencil decal sheets, if you want them, left over from my crash and burn build I never finished before painting a while back. (Hasegawa) 👍 🙂
26 June 2022, 22:01
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No bench time this weekend, busy with my son (new bike) BBQ and drinks with friends and a big family BBQ on Sunday. I plan to keep chipping away at it though.
I might take you up on those stencils Kerry, not for this one as I have the Master Decal dry rub set for this which looks pretty comprehensive, but I have another two to make in 1:48. 🤦♂️.
27 June 2022, 04:28
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No Kerry. Life is getting in the way again, but not in a bad way. I'm hoping to get some colour done over the main body today.
19 July 2022, 11:34
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So I did get the pre shading done, but not without some issues. My compressor has thrown it's towel in which really didn't help, but I have a small backup. And my ghost grey primer which I was going to use to per-shade as turned, so that splattered and clogged the airbrush initially 🤦♂️. I got there in the end! Fingers crossed I will put the Dark Sea Grey down tomorrow.
19 July 2022, 17:05
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nice marble base
i see now that you have the hobbydecal set in the project. maybe it is better to give a matt coat for those dry transfers to stick better.... i had quite some fun with my black bunny set. but it is certainly worth it.
19 July 2022, 17:17
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It sure is looking good. Sorry to hear about your compressor. I am on my third one, but still have my first small one as a back up. I have a bigger one, but it is very loud, and my wife works nights. So I can't use it.
20 July 2022, 02:57
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I'm going to have to finally put my hand in my pocket Clifford and get a good model maker specific compressor. The one that's just given up was on sale and seemed a good deal (and yes, really noisy too), but false economy when you have to buy another a few years later 🤦♂️. I might see if I can find the instructions and if the store will honour the warranty (if there's any left).
20 July 2022, 18:18
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I hear you. I bought mine from TCP Global, and it comes with a 5 year warranty, and they replaced both of them with no problems. The last one is repairable. I just need to order a seal for it from them and it would most likely work fine again. My bigger louder one is a tank type and works really well, it is just to loud to use while my wife is trying to sleep.
21 July 2022, 00:06
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Well, you'd like to think that, but…. despite being very careful taking the tape off I still had a couple of little spots where the paint lifted 🤦♂️ I also used a cheap tape to cover the large area underneath (going to use Saran Wrap next time, everyday is a school day) and it's left some tacky residue on the paint.
23 July 2022, 13:59
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I hate when that happens. I am building a CF-104 right now, and I dread when it comes time to mask off different panels and the anti glare panel. NMF's don't like masking tape much, even when you think you have de-tacked it enough.
23 July 2022, 19:48
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As per your own comment: the grey looks way off. what brand of Extra Dark Sea Grey (BS381C:640) did you use?
23 July 2022, 20:51
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Tyu, I used Hataka Extra Dark Sea Grey from their Fleet Air Arm collection. I've gone through lots of pictures now and the shade and tones of the grey is all over the place depending on lighting condition and quality of the camera/film of the period. Holding the model up to the box picture (Hasegawa 892nas), the colour is actually fairly close.
25 July 2022, 02:48
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As long as your monitor is calibrated the best way to check color is using digital references like: hextoral.com/hex-color/566164/
Your pic 97 looks closer than 96.
25 July 2022, 07:43
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So, summer holidays and you would think more bench time, but no. Either busy with the business (can't grumble too much at being busy there), spending time with family and friends (once again, no grumbling as I have unfortunately be reminded once again they can go all too soon) and shit the good lady wants me to do (now I can grumble 🤦♂️). So I regrettably used a cheap masking tape to cover up the large spaces on the bottom of the Phantom as I sprayed the grey white left sticky residue everywhere. I had to walk away for a bit. Great news, Hataka lacquer paints are very hardy once dry, so Windex, cotton wool and elbow grease did the job. I've started putting the dry rub decals straight onto to paint finish (no varnish) and they take beautifully.
2 September 2022, 13:36
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Thanks Clifford. I've told myself "no building other models until this is finished". My son has just asked if we can build a lightsaber. I can't tell him no.
3 September 2022, 04:19
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Those dry rub decals are beautifully produced, clarity is amazing. Could I ask where you got them from ?
11 September 2022, 13:01
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I agree with David. Well done with the application. I always find dry decals difficult.
11 September 2022, 15:40
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Agree, looking great. Your hands should be sore by the time you get done applying all those famous Phantom stencils. Dry rub no less. Lol.
12 September 2022, 01:16
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Lots of fun with those stencils (about a thousand if I recall correctly), but they look amazing at the end. Looking fantastic already
12 September 2022, 08:35
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Thanks guys. They are good, but take a little getting use to. I've screwed a couple up as I'm learning and there aren't any extras 🤦♂️ Dave, they are made by Hobby Decal, but I bought them on a German model website while I lived in the UK. I think Sprue Bro's had them at one point.
hobbydecal.com/categ..ory=Pontosmodel_Sets
The key is to cut each one out as you go along. Fix it in exactly the right place with clear tape so it won't move as you rub away at it.
Spanjaard, you're not wrong! I even have the panel number to put on all the panels and they are so dam small.
Between weekends away and my business taking off, I haven't been able to give more than the odd hour here and there, but the labour of love continues.
14 September 2022, 02:07
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F-4 Decals
hobbydecal.com/price..20or%20&kind=all
FG.1 Decals
hobbydecal.com/detail.cgi?number=al48007v1
14 September 2022, 02:11
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No Gareth, there are no errors on those tiny ones... call it "weathering of the stencils" 😄 😄
I had a few being accidentaly "weathered" too 😉
14 September 2022, 06:46
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An RAF Phantom being made as a Royal Navy FG.1.